Just installed Windows messenger with a view to using a SIP for VOIP calls. I
have upgraded from 4.7 to 5.1 as the "Accounts" in options was not visible.
Added the draytel user account settings & details, changed the Advanced
setting as in the screen shots on the [url]www.draytel.org[/url] site. But at no point
can I locate a way of adding the password to the SIP account. Therefore it
will not athenticate on the SIP site. On the Draytel Screen shots it gives a
picture of a user name and password. I have installed 5.1 on 2 PCs with no
success. I have used counterpaths X lite software and it all worked correctly.
Any thoughts so I can use a Microsoft solution would be appreciated.

Hello, Zehety!

You wrote on Fri, 20 Jan 2006 04:26:02 -0800:

Z> But at no point can I locate a way of adding the password to the SIP
Z> account. Therefore it will not athenticate on the SIP site. On the

You can try to use Control Panel -> User Accounts -> Advanced -> Manage passwords,
add there a name of SIP server, login and password.

--
With best regards, Alexey Korobkin.

Thank you for your reply, I ventured to a part of windows I have not seen
before so interesting as a reply. But there was no SIP server. So I added
draytel.org and the user name and password which insisted on being in an
????@draytel.org format than just the six digits. But it still cam back and
said I was not signed in.

As a further clue to you, If I go to actions and ask to start a voice
conversation then select "Other" and then "Select the service that this
person uses" I only have a choice of .NET Messenger Service. Is that because
the service is not loaded or because I am not logged in to the SIP?

Kind regards Simon



"Alexey Korobkin" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Hello, Zehety!
>
> You wrote on Fri, 20 Jan 2006 04:26:02 -0800:
>
> Z> But at no point can I locate a way of adding the password to the SIP
> Z> account. Therefore it will not athenticate on the SIP site. On the
>
> You can try to use Control Panel -> User Accounts -> Advanced -> Manage passwords,
> add there a name of SIP server, login and password.
>
> --
> With best regards, Alexey Korobkin.
>
>
>[/color]

Hello, Zehety!

You wrote on Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:01:27 -0800:

Z> Thank you for your reply, I ventured to a part of windows I have not
Z> seen before so interesting as a reply. But there was no SIP server.

How this could be there is no SIP server? draytel.org is your SIP server, actually.
Have you seen this link?
[url]http://www.draytel.org/software_setup.html#winmess[/url]

Uncheck the box near .NET passport account, and check it only near SIP communication account.
There under the Advanced button you'll see your server settings.

Z> So I added draytel.org and the user name and password which insisted on
Z> being in an
Z> ????@draytel.org format than just the six digits. But it still cam back
Z> and said I was not signed in.

Z> As a further clue to you, If I go to actions and ask to start a voice
Z> conversation then select "Other" and then "Select the service that this
Z> person uses" I only have a choice of .NET Messenger Service. Is that
Z> because the service is not loaded or because I am not logged in to the
Z> SIP?

This means you're logged in .NET/MSN network instead of SIP network.

--
With best regards, Alexey Korobkin.

The draytek site is where I got the how I can do all you say in regards to
changeing the setting in advanced where I added "draytel.org" BUT

If you go to the page you mentioned I dont get anything you see from the line#
"Next, sign into Windows Messenger, using the account details you set up"

So no password option!

Also when you press start a voice option there is no Communtication Service.
But I have filled in the SIP Communications Service Connection Configuration
just as discribed in that page!

When I do log in to the SIP server is comes back after 60 seconds with a
message.


You have been signed out of SIP Communications Service because that service
has been temporarily shut down. Please try again later.

I feel that it is if the Communications Service is not installed properly as
you confirm I have gone through the actions to set it up correctly.


Simon




"Alexey Korobkin" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Hello, Zehety!
>
> You wrote on Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:01:27 -0800:
>
> Z> Thank you for your reply, I ventured to a part of windows I have not
> Z> seen before so interesting as a reply. But there was no SIP server.
>
> How this could be there is no SIP server? draytel.org is your SIP server, actually.
> Have you seen this link?
> [url]http://www.draytel.org/software_setup.html#winmess[/url]
>
> Uncheck the box near .NET passport account, and check it only near SIP communication account.
> There under the Advanced button you'll see your server settings.
>
> Z> So I added draytel.org and the user name and password which insisted on
> Z> being in an
> Z> ????@draytel.org format than just the six digits. But it still cam back
> Z> and said I was not signed in.
>
> Z> As a further clue to you, If I go to actions and ask to start a voice
> Z> conversation then select "Other" and then "Select the service that this
> Z> person uses" I only have a choice of .NET Messenger Service. Is that
> Z> because the service is not loaded or because I am not logged in to the
> Z> SIP?
>
> This means you're logged in .NET/MSN network instead of SIP network.
>
> --
> With best regards, Alexey Korobkin.
>
>
>[/color]

Greetings Simon,

I believe this functionality was changed significantly enough in Windows Messenger 5.1 to
break these "hacks" (it's not intended that you use the SIP based support in Windows
Messenger as a SIP phone but it used to work).

Instead just use SJPhone, the instructions are on that page as well; it's what I use for this
stuff:
[url]http://www.sjlabs.com/sjp.html[/url]

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Live Messenger
Associate Expert
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/[/url]
Messenger Resources - [url]http://messenger.jonathankay.com[/url]
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
--


"Zehety" <Zehety@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7CAA41EA-214D-4FFF-B2C7-A6790CDF4825@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> The draytek site is where I got the how I can do all you say in regards to
> changeing the setting in advanced where I added "draytel.org" BUT
>
> If you go to the page you mentioned I dont get anything you see from the line#
> "Next, sign into Windows Messenger, using the account details you set up"
>
> So no password option!
>
> Also when you press start a voice option there is no Communtication Service.
> But I have filled in the SIP Communications Service Connection Configuration
> just as discribed in that page!
>
> When I do log in to the SIP server is comes back after 60 seconds with a
> message.
>
>
> You have been signed out of SIP Communications Service because that service
> has been temporarily shut down. Please try again later.
>
> I feel that it is if the Communications Service is not installed properly as
> you confirm I have gone through the actions to set it up correctly.
>
>
> Simon
>
>
>
>
> "Alexey Korobkin" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Hello, Zehety!
>>
>> You wrote on Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:01:27 -0800:
>>
>> Z> Thank you for your reply, I ventured to a part of windows I have not
>> Z> seen before so interesting as a reply. But there was no SIP server.
>>
>> How this could be there is no SIP server? draytel.org is your SIP server, actually.
>> Have you seen this link?
>> [url]http://www.draytel.org/software_setup.html#winmess[/url]
>>
>> Uncheck the box near .NET passport account, and check it only near SIP communication
>> account.
>> There under the Advanced button you'll see your server settings.
>>
>> Z> So I added draytel.org and the user name and password which insisted on
>> Z> being in an
>> Z> ????@draytel.org format than just the six digits. But it still cam back
>> Z> and said I was not signed in.
>>
>> Z> As a further clue to you, If I go to actions and ask to start a voice
>> Z> conversation then select "Other" and then "Select the service that this
>> Z> person uses" I only have a choice of .NET Messenger Service. Is that
>> Z> because the service is not loaded or because I am not logged in to the
>> Z> SIP?
>>
>> This means you're logged in .NET/MSN network instead of SIP network.
>>
>> --
>> With best regards, Alexey Korobkin.
>>
>>
>>[/color][/color]